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bush administration apologized for that, the obama administration did, too. paul ryan is running with a guy who literally wrote a book call ed "no apologies." does he also mean no apology for that? no answer. asked directly if a military strike on iran, would technically be an effective means of stopping iran from developing a nuclear weapon, vice president biden said yes to that question. paul ryan, no answer. asked what exactly a romney/ryan administration would do differently on iran and on syria, that is more strong than what the obama administration is doing since they've criticized the administration as weak, what would they do that would be stronger? no answer from paul ryan which led joe biden to say, hey, the only other thing we're not doing that we could be doing is war. are you saying you want a war? no answer. here's my favorite one. >> let me ask you quickly what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. what is in the national security of the american people.
bush administration apologized for that, the obama administration did, too. paul ryan is running with a guy who literally wrote a book call ed "no apologies." does he also mean no apology for that? no answer. asked directly if a military strike on iran, would technically be an effective means of stopping iran from developing a nuclear weapon, vice president biden said yes to that question. paul ryan, no answer. asked what exactly a romney/ryan administration would do differently on...
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obama administration officials do not want to go to war with iran. what john bolton says in private, john bolton who's one of romney's top advisors, they want another war with iran. >> this is important. this is really important, that the different -- the actual differences are being obscured by the rhetoric. now there's a moment that i thought was very interesting in which raddatz got ryan to admit daylight between him and the israelis which is very interesting. it's a golden rule in american policy for reasons that i think are not quite justifiable that one cannot have any daylight between american policy and israeli policy on these issues. they're talking about the time line for an acquisition of a weapon on the part of iran. take a look. >> you both saw benjamin netanyahu hold up that picture of a bomb with a red line and talking about the red line being in spring so can you solve this? if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, can you solve this in two months before spring and avoid nuclear -- >> we ka debate a time line. we can debate the time line
obama administration officials do not want to go to war with iran. what john bolton says in private, john bolton who's one of romney's top advisors, they want another war with iran. >> this is important. this is really important, that the different -- the actual differences are being obscured by the rhetoric. now there's a moment that i thought was very interesting in which raddatz got ryan to admit daylight between him and the israelis which is very interesting. it's a golden rule in...
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obama has done a lot of things that the bush administration did and carried over. you said, wouldn't you complain if bush did that? fair enough. even dick cheney knows he's carried over a lot of things that we were doing. so when obama's running a fairly right wing foreign policy, because it's difficult for mitt romney to challenge that. >> that's what i mean. it's hard to pin down his political philosophy, because whether you look at libya or israel or yemen, he's sort of all over the board. >> how does mitt romney challenge it when he's doing the policy that he would like to do? >> it's difficult, because there's criticisms for this president from the right and the left. it's very hard to come out and make both arguments that somehow he's failing the right and left on foreign policy. >> when you try to -- >> it seems like the strategy politically that romney has used on this since he starpted running in this cycle has been let's go -- whatever the events of the day are in foreign policy, whether it's libya exploding in march 2011 or afghanistan, whatever it is, w
obama has done a lot of things that the bush administration did and carried over. you said, wouldn't you complain if bush did that? fair enough. even dick cheney knows he's carried over a lot of things that we were doing. so when obama's running a fairly right wing foreign policy, because it's difficult for mitt romney to challenge that. >> that's what i mean. it's hard to pin down his political philosophy, because whether you look at libya or israel or yemen, he's sort of all over the...
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. >> reporter: four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won. prior too that it was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes to get us where we need to get. >> this state is neither blue or red in part because of transplant like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue whether it's vinegar-based or tomato-based. the thing i notice here is people are kind of steeped in the way they've always done it. very traditional. >> but even tradition can be upended. you're. >> 74. >> caller: you're black. >> yes. >> reporter: you saw the first black president electnd and you're saying i'm not sure. >> reporter: you're not sure. >> no. >> reporter: so there are no stereotypes. >> no. >> reporter: here, the politics are mostly red, just like the sauce. >> well, they know the best barbecue and the best politics. this is where you find it right here in lexington, north carolina. >> i think the taxes are going to con usually go higher. and it's going
. >> reporter: four years ago in the eastern part of the state where vinegar barbecue rules, obama won. prior too that it was bush territory. >> we clearly need a new direction. the current administration doesn't have what it takes to get us where we need to get. >> this state is neither blue or red in part because of transplant like doug who moved here from new york. >> you're asking about the analogy with the barbecue whether it's vinegar-based or tomato-based. the...
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>> the narrative that the obama administration is pushing is that osama bin laden is dead and we are fine. al-qaeda has been pushed aside. the media following have one quick prediction, abc's martha raditz a foreign policy expert and think she will get to joe biden on this. >> talking about al-qaeda on the ropes this was apparently an al-qaeda affiliated group that carried out fairly sophisticated attacks in benghazi? >> there is no question and there was more security for susan rice going to her media interview than there was for christopher. >> they indicated that the embassy diplomatic staff, the state department denied a request from the embassy security team in libya. they wanted a dc-3 to be kept in the country to better conduct their duties. again. >> somebody made the decision not to spend money on security while we had intelligence that was saying, al-qaeda is beginning to take off. >> isn't that the kind of thing the media should be jump on. >> i think this is largely a media driven story, katherine heritage is doing wonderful work in this network, what we are encountering
>> the narrative that the obama administration is pushing is that osama bin laden is dead and we are fine. al-qaeda has been pushed aside. the media following have one quick prediction, abc's martha raditz a foreign policy expert and think she will get to joe biden on this. >> talking about al-qaeda on the ropes this was apparently an al-qaeda affiliated group that carried out fairly sophisticated attacks in benghazi? >> there is no question and there was more security for...
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the obama administration did not know they had been asking for more security help. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. by the way, at the time, we were told exactly, we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. that was the assessment. >> there was an assessment, but the state department did know from videos that requests had been made and were turned down. a state department official acknowledged testifying on capitol hill yesterday. there was a sharp disagreement over medicare. biden charged ryan's plan would raise out of pocket costs for seniors. >> use your common sense, who do you trust on this, a man who introduced a bill to raise it $6400 a year knowing it and passing it and romney saying he signed it or may in the present? >> ryan objected. >> that statistic was misleading. more importantly, this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> on this, biden is right. the congressional budget office said it would force most future seniors
the obama administration did not know they had been asking for more security help. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. by the way, at the time, we were told exactly, we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. that was the assessment. >> there was an assessment, but the state department did know from videos that requests had been made and were turned down. a state department official acknowledged...
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during the obama administration, each year growth is dropping. all the goals, all the targets that president obama has laid out in terms of growth rates, unemployment rates, those have all fallen short by a significant amount. his 2010 budget had us growing at 4.6% this year. we'll be at 1.3% this year. today the "wall street journal" had a survey of 50 economists. they think unemployment is not going to be better six months from now than it is right now. that is a tragedy for millions of americans. the 23 million americans out of a job or can't find a job or have dropped out of the work force because this obama economy. they've begin up. >> do you think we'll hear more about the economy if these are questions for real people? this is more foreign policy than some people expected last night. we have an entire foreign policy debate coming up. is this debate going to be about the economy? >> the next debate will be domestic and about the economy. i think it is a great opportunity for obama to have a conversation with the american people and people
during the obama administration, each year growth is dropping. all the goals, all the targets that president obama has laid out in terms of growth rates, unemployment rates, those have all fallen short by a significant amount. his 2010 budget had us growing at 4.6% this year. we'll be at 1.3% this year. today the "wall street journal" had a survey of 50 economists. they think unemployment is not going to be better six months from now than it is right now. that is a tragedy for...
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today donald trump was the latest to say the obama administration cooked the books. >> do you think they changed the numbers? >> i did. i think they did a lot of monkey business. in a month and a half from now, they will do a readjustment like has been happening for the last year and a half. they will do a readjustment and the number will be 8.2% or more. >> last week it was former general chief jack welch, alan west and some right wing pundits making the allegation. we should remind viewers what got them so excited. the unemployment rate dipped below 8% for the first time in four years. until a few days ago, conservatives were claiming all the national poll, they must be way off. now that it romney's post debate bounce is fading, we'll probably hear it again. the latest poll shows obama's lead widening to 5 points again. the president was shoring up the vote. he dedicated a moment to cesar chavez. >> where there had once been despair, cesar gave workers a reason to hope. it's people. more than higher wages or better working conditions. that was cesar's gift to us. a reminder that we are
today donald trump was the latest to say the obama administration cooked the books. >> do you think they changed the numbers? >> i did. i think they did a lot of monkey business. in a month and a half from now, they will do a readjustment like has been happening for the last year and a half. they will do a readjustment and the number will be 8.2% or more. >> last week it was former general chief jack welch, alan west and some right wing pundits making the allegation. we should...
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the obama administration under fire for contradictions in the aftermath and questions about who knew what and when. the topic dominated much of thursday night's vice-presidential debate and it's continuing today. romney camp continuing push hard on it. >> when the prp vice president the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. and we're going to find out. >> that was governor romney yesterday in richmond, virginia. how much of an impact will this issue have on the president's standing with regard to foreign policy. he's a surrogate for the obama cam paper. do appreciate you spending part of your afternoon with us, sir. >> great being back on here, buddy. >> a lot of con nutrition, a lot of second-guessing about what happened in benghazi. here's what republican congressman darrell issa had to say earlier. take a listen. >> they repeatedly warned washington officials about dangerous situation in libya. instead of, however, moving swiftly to respond to these concerns, was
the obama administration under fire for contradictions in the aftermath and questions about who knew what and when. the topic dominated much of thursday night's vice-presidential debate and it's continuing today. romney camp continuing push hard on it. >> when the prp vice president the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. and we're going to find out. >> that was...
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it's even important because the man at the top of the ticket has criticized the foreign policy of the obama administration but through all accounts and by all accounts has not given specifics on what his foreign policy. so beyond libya and any criticism, if you criticize you've got to -- >> some good points back by joeb. >> what is your plan? >> tense-filled moment. >> yes, chris. >> tamron, you hit it right on the head. vice president biden, what he's got to do is really hold congressman ryan's feet to the fire. he's got to make him answer the questions that they have not had to answer and they didn't answer in the first presidential debate. really put him on the defensive about it and don't let it go. you'll know how this debate is going within the first five, ten minutes in terms of how vice president biden comes out. >> all right. thank you very much. chris kofinis, mr. steele, someone said gene. i feel like the luckiest woman in the world. >> lucky guy. >> still ahead, governor romney's shifting stance on abortion. >> i think i've said time and again i'm a pro life candidate. i'll be a
it's even important because the man at the top of the ticket has criticized the foreign policy of the obama administration but through all accounts and by all accounts has not given specifics on what his foreign policy. so beyond libya and any criticism, if you criticize you've got to -- >> some good points back by joeb. >> what is your plan? >> tense-filled moment. >> yes, chris. >> tamron, you hit it right on the head. vice president biden, what he's got to do is...
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. >> on an obama administration. >> mr. bide snoon that's incredible. >> jack kennedy. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for a lost round. >> the fox news crowd could hardly contain its distaste to biden's performance. >> i don't believe i have ever seen a debate in which one participant was as openly disrespectful of the other as biden was to paul ryan tonight. >> it was so disrespectable i agree with chris wallace. it was sort of almost unprecedented and hugely condescending. >> on msnbc where the gang was so depressed over president obama's lackluster outing the mood was downright celebratory. >> this was joe bide and he gave president obama's campaign a much needed victory. >> it was a man against a boy. >> so how did the media fall in analyzing and could we be possibly exaggerating its importance. joing me now kelly goff politil correspondent for the root.com. and steve
. >> on an obama administration. >> mr. bide snoon that's incredible. >> jack kennedy. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for a lost round. >> the fox news crowd could hardly contain its distaste to biden's performance. >> i don't believe i have ever seen a debate in which one participant was as openly...
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. >> violating the rules to score some cheap political points against the obama administration. look, they've got a big problem on the issue. since 2011, they cut nearly half a billion dollars from embassy security. secretary state clinton warned last year how devastating those cuts could be. >> the scope of the proposed house cuts is massive. the truth is, that cuts of that level will be detrimental to america's national security. >> it's a mess for republicans. but mitt romney isn't makinging it any better. for the past two days he's been sharing this story on the trail. as part of an effort to make himself seem more compassionate. >> i've met some wonderful people. one was a former navy s.e.a.l. he was killed in benghazi a couple of weeks ago. >> today they demanded that mitt romney stop. she told a boston tv station, quote, i don't trust romney. he should make my son's death part of his political agenda. it's wrong to use these brave, young men who wanted freedom for all to degrade obama. this afternoon the romney campaign announced they wouldn't use that story on the campai
. >> violating the rules to score some cheap political points against the obama administration. look, they've got a big problem on the issue. since 2011, they cut nearly half a billion dollars from embassy security. secretary state clinton warned last year how devastating those cuts could be. >> the scope of the proposed house cuts is massive. the truth is, that cuts of that level will be detrimental to america's national security. >> it's a mess for republicans. but mitt...
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he'll make the clear case that the obama administration has brought us from the worst economic crisis we've faced since the great depression as a result of failed policies of the past forward 31 straight months of job growth and that we need to continue to have president obama and he in office so that they can continue to get the economy turned around and create jobs and move forward rather than what paul ryan and mitt romney have proposed, which is to take us back to policies that crashed our economy, that -- here's the bottom line. american voters the next 26 days will have a choice and joe biden will make this case. do we want to go back to a window of time like those under president clinton when we had the longest sustained prosperity as a result of middle class focused economic policies or do we want policies like those during the bush era that focused on tax breaks for the wealthiest and almost no regulation. i think the choice is clear. >> 9 hours, 30 minutes, you and i whether be watching along with most americans. thank you so much for your time today. >> thank you. >>> it's
he'll make the clear case that the obama administration has brought us from the worst economic crisis we've faced since the great depression as a result of failed policies of the past forward 31 straight months of job growth and that we need to continue to have president obama and he in office so that they can continue to get the economy turned around and create jobs and move forward rather than what paul ryan and mitt romney have proposed, which is to take us back to policies that crashed our...
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he attacked the obama administration. that's what we see time and time again by the radical romney plan is that they have no specifics. the fact of the matter is over the last 31 months, we've had private sector job growth, created 5.1 million new jobs. and as of last friday, we had the lowest unemployment rate we've enjoyed in the last four years. does more need to happen? of course it does. but that's why the president is going to win virginia, because he is talking about growing the middle class out and talking about job creation and strengthening our economy in ways that will invest for the future. he has a plan. the other side doesn't. it's resonating in virginia. and we're going to make history again in virginia and deliver to it barack obama. >> corey, the thinking was at the beginning of this campaign, the thinking was that the governor would be able to essentially run on the economy, that the unemployment numbers and that people's perceptions of the economy, that they were going to be in such shambles that that w
he attacked the obama administration. that's what we see time and time again by the radical romney plan is that they have no specifics. the fact of the matter is over the last 31 months, we've had private sector job growth, created 5.1 million new jobs. and as of last friday, we had the lowest unemployment rate we've enjoyed in the last four years. does more need to happen? of course it does. but that's why the president is going to win virginia, because he is talking about growing the middle...
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, say, with president obama in trouble with the clurhurches by threateg them. others don't have enough agents to enforce this law. it's unclear because the riirs so mum and when they penalize it's done privately, it's unclear about how much enforcement there really is. it's expected there's little, and exactly why the enforcement is so lax. it's a big, outstanding question. >> all right. dan gilgoff, a religion editor. thanks so much. >> thanks, fred. >> you can see more of this story on our belief blog at cnn.com/belief. >>> bees in france are making rather strange-colored honey because of a sweet tooth. beekeepers say the honeybees found m&m's residue that manufacturing candy waste. the result? green, blue, or red honey. it takes like regular honey but won't be sold in stores. >>> the presidential candidate are fighting to win the latino vote. we look at one state where latinos voters could decide this election. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teache
, say, with president obama in trouble with the clurhurches by threateg them. others don't have enough agents to enforce this law. it's unclear because the riirs so mum and when they penalize it's done privately, it's unclear about how much enforcement there really is. it's expected there's little, and exactly why the enforcement is so lax. it's a big, outstanding question. >> all right. dan gilgoff, a religion editor. thanks so much. >> thanks, fred. >> you can see more of...
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. >> you think the vice president did an effective job talking about the obama administration's record on women's rights? i mean, do you think the president said what the women in this country wanted to hear? >> i do, ed. i think that i really so respect joe biden for being very honest and sincere about his own personal beliefs and for respecting and honoring the rights of women to have legal access to necessary abortion care and birth control. that said, may i just say that i really wish that women's issues would come up more in these debates. frankly, obama's positions and biden's positions are so good for women, especially when you compare them to how bad the romney/ryan positions are. i would really love to see that coming out more in the debates. >> well, we'll see if the polls swing in the gender gap, again, as they had tightened in recent weeks. terry o'neill, thanks for joining us on "the ed show." appreciate it. >>> romney and ryan have twisted themselves into knots over taxes and it showed up again last night big time. david cay johnston will join us to tell us what it's all
. >> you think the vice president did an effective job talking about the obama administration's record on women's rights? i mean, do you think the president said what the women in this country wanted to hear? >> i do, ed. i think that i really so respect joe biden for being very honest and sincere about his own personal beliefs and for respecting and honoring the rights of women to have legal access to necessary abortion care and birth control. that said, may i just say that i...
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i will tell you that over two administrations, the bush administration and obama administration, we always knew that u.s. consulates and embassies are absolutely prime targets for terrorist attacks. we've seen this before in the bush administration, we had attacks in the consulate in karachi and pakistan in saudi arabia, in jeddah, in syria, and elsewhere throughout the region. so this is not entirely new. we know the threat is there. i think what we've seen in libya is, obviously a government which still had a real challenge in using its own forces to protect the limited u.s. presence and very legitimate questions now about the degree of security that was there at the embassy. from what i understand, there still was no long specific actual intelligence about this attack, but it's quite clear there was a threat in libya generally, a specific threat that we'd seen over the previous couple months in benghazi, and now obviously the congress and the executive branch have to look hard and see should that security have been heightened, but as you noted, the diplomatic security within the state d
i will tell you that over two administrations, the bush administration and obama administration, we always knew that u.s. consulates and embassies are absolutely prime targets for terrorist attacks. we've seen this before in the bush administration, we had attacks in the consulate in karachi and pakistan in saudi arabia, in jeddah, in syria, and elsewhere throughout the region. so this is not entirely new. we know the threat is there. i think what we've seen in libya is, obviously a government...
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didn't do, which is to defend the obama administration's policies from the past four years. i also think you're going to vice president biden go after ryan and romney for having really become a little more moderate in recent days. we're getting a preview of that and the xr and t and the campaign trail. we heard president obama preview that a little bit in his comments when he said that mitt romney has been running for the past year as someone who is extremely conservative and now he's trying to convince you, and i quote, that was extremely kidding. of course, his challenge is really tonight not to make one of those gaffes he has been called out for in the past and, of course, he's facing off against someone who is regarded as a formidable challenger. paul ryan is somebody who is steeped in the details. someone who is no stranger to having to debate things like budget proposals and that sort of thing. so i think people are prepared for this to be a pretty close debate. the latest pew poll had 40% of people saying that they expected paul ryan to win, 34% expecting biden to win
didn't do, which is to defend the obama administration's policies from the past four years. i also think you're going to vice president biden go after ryan and romney for having really become a little more moderate in recent days. we're getting a preview of that and the xr and t and the campaign trail. we heard president obama preview that a little bit in his comments when he said that mitt romney has been running for the past year as someone who is extremely conservative and now he's trying to...
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. >> don't answer a basic question -- >> obama administration it's arne duncan. it's not just because he's a harvard basketball player, but he's been willing to take on the unions and do the right thing for students when david axelrod gets upset with him. >> we can have a different conversation about education, is it six major companies, all of whom have $15 billion in asset ors is it a society with a few start ups that eventually might take their place? or is it -- >> first of all -- >> what is it actually look like on a institutional level not a worker -- >> to be clear, in these kind of jobs, i don't think mitt romney thinks these big, huge corporations are the answer. as a matter of fact, mitt spent much of his consulting career critiquing how the big elephants weren't working well. most of these companies, by the way, are not going to be, you know, category killers and the sort of creative destruction mode. they are technology where we can lead the world. >> i totally understand why it's an appealing vision. it mismatches what the policy looks like and what
. >> don't answer a basic question -- >> obama administration it's arne duncan. it's not just because he's a harvard basketball player, but he's been willing to take on the unions and do the right thing for students when david axelrod gets upset with him. >> we can have a different conversation about education, is it six major companies, all of whom have $15 billion in asset ors is it a society with a few start ups that eventually might take their place? or is it -- >>...
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is there any way the obama administration could actually have cooked up these numbers? >> uh, in a short answer, i would say no. i think the last president who was accused of, and where there was evidence that he tried to mess with the bureau of labor statistics was richard nixon. since then, it is a bureau full of professionals and i think that jonathan is exactly right. we would know if there was some funny business going on there. not to mention that if they were going to cook the books, wouldn't they have done it months ago when it would have more of an impact, and wouldn't they have said the unemployment rate is, i don't know, 4%. it seems extremely far fetched. i would be shocked if we eventually discovered they had played some role in it. >> jonathan allen and anne, thank you for joining us today. stick around, we'll see you later on this hour p. >>> was mitt romney really a bipartisan governor in massachusetts? one of his old political foes joins us in the next hour. >>> and who does michelle obama think should play her husband on the silver screen? >>> but firs
is there any way the obama administration could actually have cooked up these numbers? >> uh, in a short answer, i would say no. i think the last president who was accused of, and where there was evidence that he tried to mess with the bureau of labor statistics was richard nixon. since then, it is a bureau full of professionals and i think that jonathan is exactly right. we would know if there was some funny business going on there. not to mention that if they were going to cook the...
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it's another area obama and the administration had something positive to say. they had a weird conversation about schools where mitt romney said i like great schools. >> great teachers. >> yeah. i would add to that. that's very important. labels matter. i'm not sure if there's an official name but you are talking the general problem, the mismatch between what passes as a basic education and a middle class existence. it's a huge problem. maybe 30 or 40 years ago, it was a euphemism. now it's a problem. the television show, "breaking bad." >> no one talked about "breaking bad." >> then they could have talked about the "jeffersons." we have a group of people going to high school and coming out unemployab unemployable. it's a huge problem for the nation. it's no longer anything local. i would like that talked about. it's about education and job preparation. community college is huge and barack obama said a little something about it. it was easy to miss it. i missed that in this debate. anthropologists would have been shocked it was so much about taxes. taxes are in
it's another area obama and the administration had something positive to say. they had a weird conversation about schools where mitt romney said i like great schools. >> great teachers. >> yeah. i would add to that. that's very important. labels matter. i'm not sure if there's an official name but you are talking the general problem, the mismatch between what passes as a basic education and a middle class existence. it's a huge problem. maybe 30 or 40 years ago, it was a euphemism....
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administration's policies at all. he would give us the impression he would be more tolerant of an israeli strike on iran. i personally am not convinced of that. i'm not convinced his policy wouldn't be essentially the same as president obama's, which is caution. >> indeed. eugene, michael, thank you both this afternoon. >>> next, mitt's other extreme makeover. do lies even matter in america these days? stay with us. >> governor romney showed up to deliver a performance, and he delivered a very good performance. it was completely unrooted in fact. it was completely unrooted in the positions he's taken before, and he spent 90 minutes trying to undo two years of campaigning on that stage, but he did it very well. >> are you saying that governor romney lied or was dishonest? >> yeah, i think he was dishonest, absolutely. i'm barack oba ma, and i approve i'm barack this message. oba these appliances could have been made here in america. but a company called global tech maximized profits by paying its workers next to nothin
administration's policies at all. he would give us the impression he would be more tolerant of an israeli strike on iran. i personally am not convinced of that. i'm not convinced his policy wouldn't be essentially the same as president obama's, which is caution. >> indeed. eugene, michael, thank you both this afternoon. >>> next, mitt's other extreme makeover. do lies even matter in america these days? stay with us. >> governor romney showed up to deliver a performance, and...